Post by JohnJones on Jul 12, 2016 10:50:57 GMT
Creature: 17
1 Bazaar Trader
1 Chasm Skulker
1 Chromeshell Crab
1 Clever Impersonator
1 Daring Thief
1 Empress Galina
1 Felidar Sovereign
1 Gilded Drake
1 Humble Defector
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
1 Perplexing Chimera
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Psychosis Crawler
1 Rhox Faithmender
1 Spawnbroker
1 Vedalken Plotter
1 Zedruu the Greathearted
Planeswalker:
1 1 Venser, the Sojourner
Enchantment: 15
1 Confusion in the Ranks
1 Conjured Currency
1 Copy Artifact
1 Copy Enchantment
1 Delusions of Mediocrity
1 Embargo
1 Illusions of Grandeur
1 Leyline of Anticipation
1 Luminarch Ascension
1 Mana Flare
1 Martyr's Bond
1 Paradox Haze
Artifact: 10
1 Alhammarret's Archive
1 Azorius Signet
1 Boros Signet
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Font of Mythos
1 Izzet Signet
1 Jinxed Choker
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
Instant: 4
1 Desertion
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Gather Specimens
1 Spelljack
Sorcery: 12
1 Austere Command
1 Blatant Thievery
1 Bribery
1 Donate
1 Idyllic Tutor
1 Insurrection
1 Open the Vaults
1 Phyrexian Rebirth
1 Political Trickery
1 Rite of Replication
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Switcheroo
Land: 41
1 Arcane Lighthouse
1 Arid Mesa
1 Azorius Guildgate
1 Boros Guildgate
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Command Tower
1 Flooded Strand
1 Halimar Depths
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Homeward Path
3 Island
1 Izzet Guildgate
1 Kabira Crossroads
1 Kher Keep
1 Mana Confluence
3 Mountain
1 Mystic Gate
1 Mystic Monastery
1 New Benalia
3 Plains
1 Plateau
1 Rainbow Vale
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Steam Vents
1 Temple of Enlightenment
1 Temple of Epiphany
1 Temple of Triumph
1 Tundra
1 Vivid Crag
1 Vivid Creek
1 Vivid Meadow
1 Volcanic Island
Combos
Confusion in the Ranks (CitP/ETB) = Steal Target enchantment
Confusion in the Ranks + Kher Keep = Steal target creature give them a 0/1
""...""+Venser = Steal target creature and Keep your 0/1
Venser + Gilded Drake = Steal target creature then steal another target creature and another target creature man this is fun.
Illusions of Granduer + Donate/Zedruu/Confusion/Pucas etc = Gain 20 eventually someone loses 20 life
""..." + Venser = Gain 20, Someone loses 20 life immediately, then you gain 20 more at eot and set up for someone losing 20 again.
Humble Defector + Homeward Path = Draw 2 cards/Tap.
Illusions of Grandeur/Delusions of Mediocracy + Alhammarret's/Rhox Faithmender = Gain double life (40/20) someone loses (20/10)
Cards I want to Test
Confiscate//Take Posession (Steals Planeswalkers)
Commandeer (I think this would be helpful in many situations)
"new red donate" (Idk if its needed but allows you to keep your own guy)
Nykthos, Shrine to Nix (more mana)
Diamond Valley//High Market (to sac their guys I steal)
Etherium Horn Sorcerer (I feel like I jam this into every UR deck I make...so ive intentionally not played him)
Clone Legion (Feel like this could be another "Insurrection" type card)
Jace TMS
Jace TLG (Both Jaces, are similar to Venser in that i get my stuff back... not sure if they are worth it though)
Assemble the Legion - Feel like its win more, but kinda cool i guess
Overwhelming Intellect - Gather Specimeins has been lacking lately, feel like i need more card draw
Undiscovered Paradise - Fun with Plotter/Political Trickery
Cards I've Tested
Literally Tons. These will most likely come up thoughout the discussion and i can remember. Things like Theives auction, warp world, "most normal Zedruu EDH staples"
From what I remember ive tested:
Trancendence (too situational)
Equilibrium (im not dealing with this)
Warp World/Scatter//Theives auction//Other Red cards that take a lot of time to complete (not playing because I dont feel like dealing with it)
Replenish - Not enough enchantments
Draining Whelk - Good, not really what I wanted, cut for gather specimeins which might get cut for overwhelming intellect
Bronze Bombshell - Not good enough, doesnt help zedruu
Norin//Dash guys - not good enough without confusion in multiplayer games... no real purpose
Cards Im thinking of cutting
Test of Endurance
Felidar Sovereign (both not really pulling their weight and idk seems kinda not-in spirit)
Gather Specimens
1 Bazaar Trader
1 Chasm Skulker
1 Chromeshell Crab
1 Clever Impersonator
1 Daring Thief
1 Empress Galina
1 Felidar Sovereign
1 Gilded Drake
1 Humble Defector
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
1 Perplexing Chimera
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Psychosis Crawler
1 Rhox Faithmender
1 Spawnbroker
1 Vedalken Plotter
1 Zedruu the Greathearted
Planeswalker:
1 1 Venser, the Sojourner
Enchantment: 15
1 Confusion in the Ranks
1 Conjured Currency
1 Copy Artifact
1 Copy Enchantment
1 Delusions of Mediocrity
1 Embargo
1 Illusions of Grandeur
1 Leyline of Anticipation
1 Luminarch Ascension
1 Mana Flare
1 Martyr's Bond
1 Paradox Haze
Artifact: 10
1 Alhammarret's Archive
1 Azorius Signet
1 Boros Signet
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Font of Mythos
1 Izzet Signet
1 Jinxed Choker
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
Instant: 4
1 Desertion
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Gather Specimens
1 Spelljack
Sorcery: 12
1 Austere Command
1 Blatant Thievery
1 Bribery
1 Donate
1 Idyllic Tutor
1 Insurrection
1 Open the Vaults
1 Phyrexian Rebirth
1 Political Trickery
1 Rite of Replication
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Switcheroo
Land: 41
1 Arcane Lighthouse
1 Arid Mesa
1 Azorius Guildgate
1 Boros Guildgate
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Command Tower
1 Flooded Strand
1 Halimar Depths
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Homeward Path
3 Island
1 Izzet Guildgate
1 Kabira Crossroads
1 Kher Keep
1 Mana Confluence
3 Mountain
1 Mystic Gate
1 Mystic Monastery
1 New Benalia
3 Plains
1 Plateau
1 Rainbow Vale
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Steam Vents
1 Temple of Enlightenment
1 Temple of Epiphany
1 Temple of Triumph
1 Tundra
1 Vivid Crag
1 Vivid Creek
1 Vivid Meadow
1 Volcanic Island
Combos
Confusion in the Ranks (CitP/ETB) = Steal Target enchantment
Confusion in the Ranks + Kher Keep = Steal target creature give them a 0/1
""...""+Venser = Steal target creature and Keep your 0/1
Venser + Gilded Drake = Steal target creature then steal another target creature and another target creature man this is fun.
Illusions of Granduer + Donate/Zedruu/Confusion/Pucas etc = Gain 20 eventually someone loses 20 life
""..." + Venser = Gain 20, Someone loses 20 life immediately, then you gain 20 more at eot and set up for someone losing 20 again.
Humble Defector + Homeward Path = Draw 2 cards/Tap.
Illusions of Grandeur/Delusions of Mediocracy + Alhammarret's/Rhox Faithmender = Gain double life (40/20) someone loses (20/10)
Cards I want to Test
Confiscate//Take Posession (Steals Planeswalkers)
Commandeer (I think this would be helpful in many situations)
"new red donate" (Idk if its needed but allows you to keep your own guy)
Nykthos, Shrine to Nix (more mana)
Diamond Valley//High Market (to sac their guys I steal)
Etherium Horn Sorcerer (I feel like I jam this into every UR deck I make...so ive intentionally not played him)
Clone Legion (Feel like this could be another "Insurrection" type card)
Jace TMS
Jace TLG (Both Jaces, are similar to Venser in that i get my stuff back... not sure if they are worth it though)
Assemble the Legion - Feel like its win more, but kinda cool i guess
Overwhelming Intellect - Gather Specimeins has been lacking lately, feel like i need more card draw
Undiscovered Paradise - Fun with Plotter/Political Trickery
Cards I've Tested
Literally Tons. These will most likely come up thoughout the discussion and i can remember. Things like Theives auction, warp world, "most normal Zedruu EDH staples"
From what I remember ive tested:
Trancendence (too situational)
Equilibrium (im not dealing with this)
Warp World/Scatter//Theives auction//Other Red cards that take a lot of time to complete (not playing because I dont feel like dealing with it)
Replenish - Not enough enchantments
Draining Whelk - Good, not really what I wanted, cut for gather specimeins which might get cut for overwhelming intellect
Bronze Bombshell - Not good enough, doesnt help zedruu
Norin//Dash guys - not good enough without confusion in multiplayer games... no real purpose
Cards Im thinking of cutting
Test of Endurance
Felidar Sovereign (both not really pulling their weight and idk seems kinda not-in spirit)
Gather Specimens